[VOIPSEC] Spoof of IP address within a (large) domain

Diana Cionoiu diana-liste at voip.null.ro
Tue Apr 4 06:35:59 CDT 2006


Hello Brian,

Is possibile to spoof inside a DSL network the IP address but the 
procedure is so complicated that doesn't work the trouble just to now 
show the right address for 911.

Diana

Brian Rosen wrote:

>Now it's my turn to "ask the experts".
>
> 
>
>I have someone proposing a solution to a large problem of "where are you?";
>that is, finding your own location.
>
>It's for 9-1-1, and we have one mechanism, DHCP, that we are pretty happy
>with; you can spoof within your subnet, but that's about it, and location
>doesn't vary much within the subnet.
>
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>
>For various reasons, there are folks who don't like that idea and are
>pushing another.  They want server in the domain to return your address when
>asked.  They propose to use your IP address as the key to who "you" is.
>Just for the moment, ignore the issues of what the protocol is and what its
>security characteristics are.  They say that within their network (think a
>big DSL network), you cannot spoof IP addresses.
>
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>
>I was pretty taken aback by that.  I thought it was pretty easy to spoof.  I
>understand that they have the DSL modems pretty wired down (they won't let
>you spoof an address coming from the DSL modem; they know what IP address it
>should be), but I thought there were other was to spoof.
>
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>So that's my question: is IP address good enough, or are they just
>delusional that they can prevent spoofing within the domain.
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>
>Brian
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