[VOIPSEC] Governments employing MiTM attacks against SSL

[J. Oquendo]

T Biehn wrote:
> The example that the paper focuses on is governments complicit in
> industrial espionage, not random tapping of individuals. This is one
> example.
>
> Consider another example: The government sees you at a Communist Rally
> and begins intercepting all your communiques. Perhaps some of it could
> be considered risque philosophy, but you never have an intention of
> committing a crime.
>
> These intercepts are used at your treason trial.
>
>   
Horrible example. Their taps would have to show intent, mens rea, etc.
Right now as being on so many mailing list it could be construed that
I'm a cyberterrorist. Should I worry? Certainly with all the emails
receive on a daily basis many different pictures could be painted. I
worry about nothing because I have nothing to hide. If I wanted to
become a communist, anarchist, socialist, etc., doesn't mean I'm a
criminal and my actions and words would reflect that. If someone didn't
like my views, that is their opinion and their right. I STILL would not
worry because I know and understand what is right from wrong meaning, I
would know WHOM to be around based on their actions, demeanor, etc., and
whom NOT to be around. Under certain conditions, there is nothing wrong
with communism nor socialism... Should I be vetted now for something?
Again I argue I have nothing to hide so I have nothing to worry about.

> The media of the paper happens to be HTTP SSL. It could just as likely
> be any PKI based PK Crypto on any media.
>
>   
And your point is what?

> Nothing to Hide Nothing to Worry about simply isn't a valid argument.
>
> -Travis
>   

Sure it is. Anyhow, enough with this thread on list, does little for
VoIP and or the members here. We could take this discussion off-list or
to FD if you choose.



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