[VOIPSEC] Put STUN in NAT Boxes?

[Simon Horne]

Dan (Wing)

I noticed that you submitted a proposal to add STUN to NAT devices
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wing-behave-nat-control-stun-usage-02.txt

and looking at sect 14.4 of the STUN working document
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-behave-rfc3489bis-06#section-14.4

Your long term solution to NAT traversal is to control the NAT boxes?  Are 
you giving up on the initial idea of ICE which was to work with existing 
NATs and instead taking the UPnP and MIDCOM type approach and putting some 
form of control into the NAT boxes and attempt to control/instruct them?


Simon