[VOIPSEC] IPSec and VoIP Security
Tschofenig, Hannes
hannes.tschofenig at siemens.com
Wed Apr 5 08:36:39 CDT 2006
Hi,
> Hi ALL,
>
> If IPSec must be used in IPv6 networks, to deploy this
> solution now for VoIP
> security is not to avoid problems in the near future?
There is a difference between MUST implement and MUST use.
There is no MUST use requirement from IPv6 point of view.
There is also a difference between IPsec protection of a wireless link or the usage of IPsec for a VPN and IPsec usage for end-to-end media traffic security.
Ciao
Hannes
> In an ongoing research that I am doing here we are using
> IPSec in Bluetooth
> communications for VoIP and the results seens good, despite
> we are having
> some problems with our ARM-based platforms. Is the solution
> an optimized
> version of IPSec? Like encryption-engine packet priority for
> VoIP? So on....
>
> Best regards
>
> Passito
>
> 2006/4/5, Jon-Olov Vatn <vatn at kth.se>:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > You can find call setup measurements for the use of MIKEY/SRTP and
> > MIKEY/IPSec-ESP (with MIKEY signed Diffie-Hellman for keying)
> > in Bilien et al. "Secure VoIP: call establishment and media
> protection",
> > see
> > http://www.minisip.org/publications.html for an online version.
> >
> > These measurements were done with minisip running on
> > 500 MHz Pentium 3 laptops with a Linux 2.6 kernel.
> > With the way "key generation time" is defined in this
> paper, that took
> > about 130 ms, both for SRTP and IPSec-ESP. However, for IPSec-ESP
> > we found a delay of around 660 ms to update the SA and policy DB,
> > a delay which we at that time were not able give a good explanation
> > for. (It should not relate to any cryptographic processing,
> rather it
> > ougth
> > to depend on the interaction between (or internals of)
> minisip and the
> > Linux IPSec support we were using.)
> >
> > BW J-O
> >
> > Randell Jesup wrote:
> >
> > >"Porter, Thomas \(Tom\)" <tporter at avaya.com> writes:
> > >
> > >
> > >>As a starting point here are some numbers for encryption speeds:
> > >>
> > >>An AES encryption, without hardware acceleration, takes about 50
> > >>microseconds, for instance. But the key generation and
> exchange process
> > >>can last up to 500ms, which is unacceptable for a real-time VoIP
> > >>application.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >50us and 500ms - on what? 3.0GHz P4? 400MHz PIII? 12MHz
> 80286? 150MHz
> > >ARM? 600MHz DSP? PDA? To talk encryption performance,
> you have to
> > >specify what your target hardware (minimum!) is. 50us on
> a 3GHz PC might
> > >be 1ms or more on a low-end hardphone - or it might be
> less than 50us.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Overall, establishing a security association with IPSec
> > >>requires anywhere from 2 to 10 seconds. TLS achieves
> better performance,
> > >>but it still needs approximately 1.5 seconds to form a security
> > >>association. IIRC, these figures are from TI.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >For what processor? Mikey in various
> non-preshared-key/non-PKI modes
> > would
> > >probably be similar (I think) to TLS (anyone know?)
> > >
> > >I agree security startup to avoid excessive delays in
> accepting calls
> > >is a BIG issue with various public-key-based algorithms.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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>
> --
> --
> Alexandre Passito - Estudante de Mestrado
> Universidade Federal do Amazonas (UFAM)
> Departamento de Ciência da Computação (DCC)
> --
> Alexandre Passito - M.Sc. Student
> Federal University of Amazonas (UFAM)
> Computer Science Department (DCC)
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